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well good afternoon everybody and

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welcome back to the Johnson Space Center

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here in Houston joining us is Leroy Cain

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he is the chairman of the mission

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management team he's also the deputy

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manager of the space shuttle program

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he'll talk to you about the events of

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the meeting today and then we'll take

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questions here and then out on the phone

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bridge I'll turn it over Leroy okay

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Thank You Kyle oh good afternoon it's

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good to be back with you again today the

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the crew is doing very well on orbit I

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don't have a lot to tell you with

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respect to the mission management team

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today we did talk only briefly about a

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few items the crew on orbit was busy

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today doing some transfer doing some

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preparation for their spacewalk tomorrow

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and just generally getting ready for

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flight day five today was a pretty busy

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in in Kevin day and so but we did have a

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couple of things to talk about in the

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mission management team meeting the the

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assessment teams had an opportunity to

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look over all the inspection data and

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they brought in their report and happy

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to report that there was really not very

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much to talk about at all literally we

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had just very few areas where they were

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able to detect any any kind of damage at

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all and maybe I'll bring the pictures in

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tomorrow I probably should have brought

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them today but for today I'll just give

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you an example we have a couple areas

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where we have some very minor blanket

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damage and these are things on the order

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of an inch by a fraction of an inch on

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an ohms pod a gap filler that that has a

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little bit of sleeving

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that you've seen around the gap filler

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is a little bit of this leaving is

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protruding and that's on one of the

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homes pod areas we had two tiles that

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they looked at on the bottom and the

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entire bottom side of the orbiter where

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we have thousands of tiles we have two

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tiles that they looked at and the damage

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is just coating damage on the order of a

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couple of inches by a couple of inches

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just phenomenal the the performance of

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the entire space shuttle system to

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result in in this kind of and this kind

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of a report from the inspection team so

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we it's true that we've gotten pretty

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used to and have enjoyed for a number of

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flights increasingly improved

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performance as a result of of all the

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work that the team has done on the

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vehicle and the vehicle elements to

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improve the overall performance of the

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system and it's not as though I'm

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surprised by this you know I'm not it is

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that I'm not sure we we generally talk

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about it in these terms and we like to

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show you we'd like to show you pictures

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of areas where we've had damage for

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example and and talk about why it's not

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a concern I decided not to bring the

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pictures today because it really is such

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trivial damage that I didn't think

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they'd be of interest and then it was

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pointed out to me that that might

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actually be a good point to make so at

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any rate we talk over all of the results

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with the team and their recommendation

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is that we don't have any requirement

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for a focused inspection that we

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typically talk a great deal about and as

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I mentioned to you the last time we were

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here so our decision officially is that

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we will not do a focused inspection we

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have no areas of concern to to require

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any kind of focused or more detailed

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inspection so we won't be doing any of

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that so again I can't say enough about

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the engineering team and the work that

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they did to get through all this data in

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the last couple of days I think it

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points out again something we talked

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about the other day where the team

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really has evolved as we've gotten more

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data on the ground and when you consider

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the volume of the data that the team

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goes through on any one of these flights

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it really is pretty phenomenal

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and even to the point of their processes

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for reviewing these data has evolved and

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been refined and and it's really pretty

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pretty fascinating to watch them go

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through their process and bring the

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results forward so the

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discovery continues to perform excellent

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we really only have very minor things to

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talk about from a system standpoint

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nothing significant at all nothing that

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we're concerned about it was the the

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team mentioned that the boosters are in

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tow matter of fact I think we expect

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them to be in the port tonight they'll

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be in the slip tomorrow

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on Monday and then we anticipate that

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we'll do open assessment on the Boosters

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on on Tuesday and so we look forward to

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those results we have a great deal of

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crowell margin on the order of two days

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and so as you know there are some things

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we want to do to include possibly a plus

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one day for the for the Soyuz fly around

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and some other transfer activity that we

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might want to do as well as we would

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like to transfer as much o2 as we can so

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we'll look at doing that and it looks

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like we're going to have every

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opportunity to transfer as much o2 as

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probably as the station can take so with

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that our plan is still that we will talk

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about Soyuz fly around in the in the mm

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teen and then the IMM T and then we'll

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make an integrated decision they're

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anticipate we'll have a decision about

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whether we're going to do fly around or

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not at least from the standpoint of

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whether it's technically feasible and

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whether or not we think we can we can go

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do it from from an operational

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standpoint so that's the plan forward

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it's been an out another outstanding day

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in space so far I was talking to one of

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my colleagues and I asked you know what

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I want to talk about today what can I

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tell folks and and and he said that I

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should tell him that we plan well and

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that we take one day at a time and

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clearly we're doing that on this mission

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is we have on previous one so with that

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we've got a few folks here and then Alan

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the real quick learn I think you

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addressed this earlier in a different

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briefing but just to make sure if the

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fire round does not get approved you

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guys have any task that would make you

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want to add that day if the rest of the

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mission continues to go smoothly I think

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bill that we probably will because

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there's a great deal of outfitting where

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the PMM is concerned most of which the

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team has done an outstanding job of

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getting all that integrated into the

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timeline but what I find generally is

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that on these kinds of missions in

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particular we can usually find things

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for the crew to do if we're able to if

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we're able to see our way to stay in

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another day so I fully expect that that

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there's some good work that we can do on

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orbit with the station team if we stay

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for an additional day even the Soyuz fly

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around notwithstanding from me on debris

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assessment realizing that you don't see

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anything in the in the rpm photography

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um if you've learned anything that lets

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you modify or change how you think about

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the timing of debris events not in terms

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of when things come off but when things

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pose a threat to the shield I mean

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obviously these guys had some contact

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and didn't do anything which would fit

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aerodynamically since it transports on

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all that is there anything he's saying

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that it makes you modify any of that or

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is it all pretty much by the book at

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this point that's a good question I

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would say I'd probably say it and maybe

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question in a slightly different way

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what we have seen I would say in many

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ways substantiates what we think is

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happening for example the other day when

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events or debris events and as it turns

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out and and our thinking was that those

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the ones that we had seen up to that

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point were ones that they occurred well

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outside of ast t the area of aerodynamic

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sensitivity where we you can actually

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put some energy into a particle and do

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some damage

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these all occurred outside of a stt so

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you wouldn't expect that even if they

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did come in contact with a vehicle that

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there's enough energy there to do any

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damage well in fact we're not seeing any

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damage and we do know that we had some

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albeit a very small number from what we

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could see in the imagery particles

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flying around and again late in the

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profile' late enough that it's outside

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of our area of concern so that sort of

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concern and in times of of debris

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liberation so bill I would say what

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we've seen substantiates the theories

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that we've been putting forward and it

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substantiates the areas that we've put

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the most emphasis on in terms of trying

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to make modification to the vehicle so

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that we can minimize not only minimize

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debris liberation but minimizing the the

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effects of debris when it when it does

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liberate in areas where we just have

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done everything we can but we can't make

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it zero thanks mark Carreau for Aviation

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the image team that sort of finished its

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assessment of all the launch imagery and

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the wing scans and the rpm photography I

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mean I just didn't what its final or

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there's some formal process that yet

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that has to yet take place yeah we're

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and we just passed the step where we

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like to be able to make a decision about

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focused inspection and the reason that

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step is where it is in in a sequence is

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because while we do book keep some time

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for focused inspection it's a very

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nominal amount of time and we never know

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pre-flight how much you're going to need

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for a focused inspection and so you like

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to keep those kind of issues you like to

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keep enough runway in front of you to

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deal with anything like that so

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therefore we front-load

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the process with this screening such

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that we can get as early as possible

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a decision about whether or not there's

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some area that we want to go look at in

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a more detailed fashion however that

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isn't in fact the end of their work it

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isn't the end of the process for

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reviewing imagery for reviewing

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inspection data for reviewing the data

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from the wing leading edge impact

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detection system that goes on for a

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couple of more days and in the case of

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the wing leading edge system we have it

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orbit operations so that will go on

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through the end but back to the imagery

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and the analysis of the imagery and the

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respective inspection data that goes on

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and it will continue to be reviewed at

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the next level if you will and then more

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peer review happens after that and at

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some point here in the next 24 to 48

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hours I anticipate that that will make a

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decision to clear the vehicle for safety

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or main entry and so that's kind of the

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timeframe that we're looking at Phillip

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sauce with NASA Space Flight comm just a

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quick question on the car margins is

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that above the nominal docked timeline

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or would that be above the nominal plus

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the extension day right now that's above

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the nominal and so the one-day will come

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out of that and then if we if we did

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anything beyond the to transfer that we

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currently have planned it would also

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come out of that Robert Robert problem

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with collect space comm with regards to

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the Soyuz fly about has the actual

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flight plan over what you're considering

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right now reached a solid point where

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you're now just reviewing just one one

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flight path for it or is it still in

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flux and to your knowledge I have early

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plans been sent up to the to Scott Kelly

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and the crew to start reviewing in the

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case

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if it is approved they can perform it

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yeah good questions both on the second

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one first we have been talking to the

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owner about crew since the inception of

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this so going on through somewhere

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between three and four weeks now to

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include at first very rudimentary plans

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and as of late more detailed discussion

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about the actual timeline of the events

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and the sequence of choreography of

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things so so yes very much the orbit

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crew has been integral in this since we

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started talking about it the the to your

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first question we have pretty well

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potted the plan for what we do on flight

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day 10 the plus one day with respect to

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the Soyuz fly on so we no wait at a

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timeline we would do it the sequence of

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events leading up to it in the morning

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when it finishes what the other orbit

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crew members are doing during that

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timeframe what we do with hatches

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afterwards and getting crew members

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situated in the vehicles and things of

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the like so it's it's pretty firmly in

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place I won't say that we won't tweak it

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between now then because I'm a hundred

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percent sure we will because that's what

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we do but it's pretty well ready to go

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and with regards to the crew on orbit

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have they taken any steps that started

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in start in terms of starting to set up

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the Soyuz to support it I'm not sure how

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much they've done in the actual swedes

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vehicle i know they've done some things

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in terms of laying out equipment and and

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procedures and talk about techniques and

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seating positions and and timing of

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things but i don't know what they've i

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don't know how much if anything they've

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and she came with Harvard journalism if

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you do get to do the flyover and you

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take that wonderful image in your own

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I probably should have thought about

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this question before you asked me the

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truth is I've been thinking about that

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since we started talking about it not

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how I would answer this question but

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what what it would mean what it might

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mean not to me but to to all of us and

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you know the the space station is an

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amazing research laboratory and if you

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think about what it took to get the

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modules in orbit to get them constructed

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and to build this facility that we have

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orbiting and man 24/7 and now six crew

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members it's it's pretty eye watering

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and mind boggling and I think that

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perhaps because those of us who have

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been around it and been a part of it

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still believe and are still fascinated

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by how amazing it is that that we the

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broader team have been able to

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accomplish this in the on the

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international stage and with all that is

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required in order to do that I think the

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fact that we are still pretty fascinated

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and amazed by it tells me that if the

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average person in the public who

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probably is not as familiar with most of

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it as as we are arguably any opportunity

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and we have to help them see what it is

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we've really done it what it means to us

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as in not just as a nation but as an

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international family of space

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communities that can be that can only be

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a good thing I really truly believe that

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can only be

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thing I think there's probably a lot of

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folks who who maybe really just don't

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they hear us talk about it they

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understand on some level what it is

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we're talking about with respect to

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whether it's a space shuttle mission to

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the station or the station itself

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orbiting 24/7 doing important research

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big laboratory a lot of complicated

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structures etc they probably don't have

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an appreciation that we might like for

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them to have and something like this

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this image might go on ways toward

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improving that overall understanding now

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having said that while I do admittedly

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very much like the fact that we might

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actually capture some of these images if

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we're able to do this fly around it

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really will be important and valuable

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for us from an engineering and technical

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understanding of the of the entire

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station standpoint we're motivated to do

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it because we're going to get some some

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views and some perspectives and submit

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some engineering data on the station

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that we we've yet to do now you might

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think after 10 or 12 or 13 years we

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probably would have done some of this by

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now but we haven't for a broad marideth

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reasons and we could go into but rather

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than do that I'll just tell you this

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will provide us some pretty unique views

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it's a pretty unique engineering data

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and it would be extremely valuable for

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us to have that and yes it would be very

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neat and I think valuable for me

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personally obviously but but much much

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much more importantly than that for the

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country and and for all of the nations

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who are involved to to have it and and

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be able to look back on on what I

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believe will be one of the greatest

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legacies of the space shuttle system

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okay let's go to the phone bridge I

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think we got two folks online will go

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with Marsha done first whether all four

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were so I only call part of your

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question Marsha but I think I know what

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you've asked and no I don't have any

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more information for you on the four

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for it to do a good number have that

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happen is that the extent of what's been

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that's correct Marsha okay Irene Klotz

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out of box question Leroy is um April

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still looking like a good target launch

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for sts-134 or are you guys looking at

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moving that to June yes April looks

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really good for us for the endeavor

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mission sts-134 and we feel really good

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about the schedule while going forward

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and and actually we have quite a quite

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an extensive launch period in that mid

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mid April to early May time frame so we

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feel pretty good about that okay that's

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it for the phone bridge so Jeremiah

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let's see we'll get Pete right here and

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then mark and we'll wrap it up except

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eat spots with the Christian Science

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Monitor I wonder if you would just sort

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of give an example of the kind of

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engineering data you think you you

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engineering insights you might be able

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to glean from images I think when people

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tend to think of engineering analyses

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they think of the emplacing sensors

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somewhere

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two measurements what can you give an

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example of what the funds might think

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sure yeah as you know when typically

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when we approach the station as a

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shuttle or when we leave or same thing

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for some of the other visiting vehicles

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whether it be Soyuz or one of the other

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vehicles the vehicle approaches and/or

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leaves in plane with the long axis of

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the station where the solar arrays are

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out of plane and so for example in this

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case when we do the fly around we're

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going to get a vantage point that's

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going to look kind of down the long axis

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of the truss and have a different view

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of the solar arrays and of the entire of

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the entire long axis of the station that

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we haven't had before so if you think

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about some of the things that that

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station program has had to be concerned

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with in the past to include radiator

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panel damage or you know mmod damage

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we're going to get a different vantage

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point I think that's going to offer them

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some new data that may suggest you know

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this is this is another different

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another area we should be looking at

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differently than what we have been or

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here we had some shielding and appears

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to have been a really good idea to have

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shielding in this area maybe we should

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have some more in another different area

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things of that nature for sure will will

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be I think provided with this rather

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unique vantage point so in that sense

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that's one example of some data that

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could be used some good engineering data

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for the station team thank you again

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mark Carreau for Aviation Week and I

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just want to touch back on the the cryo

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margin is it likely to grow even more

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two days at this point it's pretty

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healthy and if it did would you look at

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more than one day extra at the station

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if you found something to do or is that

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kind of tops

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let's see mark I I don't expect it to

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grow much more one of the reasons why

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and a lot of times we do see a little

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bit of growth first couple of days after

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we get on orbit and we really look at

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the performance of the fuel cells with

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the power transfer system hooked up and

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then the and then the power experts will

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go in and the folks that manage the fuel

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cells on the ground excuse me uh they'll

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they'll make some changes to their

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calibration curves that they use in

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their models for predicting performance

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and for predicting cryogenic margins and

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when they do that it usually gives us a

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plus up because we're that were more

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conservative with the Cal's

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initially so that's part of what you're

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seeing is that plus up as a result of

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the normal calibration tweaking that we

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we oftentimes do in addition to that

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we're going to start using using it up

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because of transfer at some point here

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in the not-too-distant future and and in

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addition to that we're kind of at the

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point where we usually usually otherwise

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a level off so I won't be shocked if we

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if we have some some additional small

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increase but I I don't I don't really

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expect it to your other question if we

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do have margin that would allow us to do

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something beyond you know or in addition

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to a plus one that is to say at a second

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plus one day I don't know whether we

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will do that or not certainly if we had

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a need for it after we had already used

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up the first plus one if we determine we

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have a need for it and we have a krile

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for it

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we'll make that trade as we always do

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and do a risk versus risk based

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assessment and they make the decision

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based on that so wouldn't be out of the

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question by any means I think if if the

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way if the performance of the vehicles

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and the mission to this point is any

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indication of the rest of the mission

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would probably I wouldn't anticipate us

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doing that but we both know that's not

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an indication of the rest of the mission

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so all right let's see well close with

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the usual couple of programming notes

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crew heads to bed about 9:30 tonight and

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and we'll begin our flight day

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highlights package replay starting at

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ten this is Central Time crew wakes up

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tomorrow morning at 5:23 to begin the

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preparations for EBA number one that

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starts around 6 a.m. and then the EBA is

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scheduled to start a little after 10

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o'clock a six and a half hour excursion

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and then our next briefing in here will

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be after the EBA of course and that will

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be about 7 p.m. tomorrow tied to the end

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of the EBA so head back here for that

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briefing all of its on the NASA

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television schedule out on the web so

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take a look for that wwas a govt shuttle

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TV and with that we'll thank everybody

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for coming have a great rest of your